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Chatter Post II



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(updated 5 July)



New chat post, same rules. Brit-pick, ask questions, debate, gossip, gush and generally indulge in any fannish activity that does not fall under the category of posting or filling prompts. I hope you all enjoy it

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Or as they say in Limerick

It's been brought to my attention we are needing
A place for discussion, not reading
I hope this post will do
I'll leave the rest to you
And Beware of the plot bunnies breeding

Sorry if the poem is rubbish - I literally haven't written one since grade five.


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Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
What's your favorite series of Cabin Pressure, and why?

For myself, it's probably series 3. The bickering between Martin and Douglas has calmed down a bit since episodes like "Ipswich" and "Johannesburg", but the banter still has an edge to it, especially in episodes like "Qiki". You get the family feel in more of an "angry siblings who all care undernearth" vibe, rather than "always having each other's backs and being super supportive". It's a close tie between series 2 and 3, but the introduction of Herc in series 3 pushes it over for me, as it gives Carolyn a bit more to do, plus Herc is just one of my favorites.

So if I had to rank the series, it probably be 3, 2 (despite having my favorite individual episode, "Limerick"), 4, 1 (I love "Fitton" but absolutely cannot stand "Cremona"). What are other people's rankings?

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I like 3 and 4. St Petersburg is my favorite episode. V, W, and X are also fun to me.

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, series 3 and 4 are the most consistent in terms of characterization and writing, although 1 and 2 definitely have standout episodes. I think if I checked my play count on iTunes, 3 would have the most replays.

If I had to rank it would probably be 3, 4, 2, 1, with 2 edging out 1 slightly because although H and K are two of my least favorite episodes, I, J, and L are three of my favorites.

I sort of wish Birling day had been a one-off plot device but that's neither here nor there.

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You think 4 is consistent in terms of characterisation? Interesting, since there's pretty much no Douglas and Arthur

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
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Characterization has nothing to do with how often a character appears, only that that character acts consistently when he does. When Douglas and Arthur appear, they act consistently with how their characters have been presented so far. Carl, for example, is consistently snarky despite being a minor character. I would say excluding Douglas and Arthur is more unbalanced writing than bad characterization.

I say series 4 is more consistent (to me) because there aren't as many instances of major characters acting in a way that seems unusual for them without good reason; for example, Martin crying in Boston always strikes me as very odd, and later his attempt at strong-arming the TSA agent to the detriment of MJN's business always makes me roll my eyes at the plain stupidity (even for Martin.) Douglas going out of his way in Q to make Martin look like an idiot in public at his job always comes off as a bit needlessly cruel to me, even though it is funny and Martin does need to be taken down a peg or six. These incidents come off as out-of-character to me because although Martin does see himself as more important than he is and Douglas is always teasing Martin about the plethora of things that exist to tease Martin about, these incidents both seem extreme given their established characters. (Martin overcompensates for his insecurities by being rigid and self-important and Douglas is opportunistic and cynical but generally kind.)

And yes, I feel like series 3 and 4 taken together create an arc of character growth for all of the main 4. W was definitely a bit Martin-centric, to its detriment,and this was exacerbated by the "words of one syllable" game that hamstrung the two characters who generally get some of the best dialogue. However, there are examples of episodes that feature other characters: Helsinki comes to mind with Carolyn, and Cremona and the Birling Day episodes arguably put guest characters in the spotlight. I would even argue that the show's weakest writing occurs when any one character is given too much focus in an episode.

With the exception of W I think the other episodes in this series have been pretty well-balanced in terms of how much "screen time" the characters get, or at least no worse than some episodes from previous series. Whereas series 1 has two episodes I really like, one episode I'm "meh" about and three I never listen to, I have found all but one episode of series 4 to be pretty funny and entertaining (that one is W, if you're curious.) So yes, I think series 4 has been more consistent than some other series.

But that's just like, my opinion man.
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Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
You need to watch the episodes I'm watching then, not the edited versions you seem to be getting. Lots of Douglas and Arthur.

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Where are you watching, because I've never seen a single episode.

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Watching with my ears, Literal Lucy. :P

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. A fair split between Series 2 and 3 for me.

Series 2 has "Gdansk" (hilarious), "Helsinki" (moving - this one glimpse at vulnerable!Carolyn) and "Limeric" (warm-hearted and funny).

But "Ottery St Mary" in S3 is is my absolute favorite, because it smacks of road movie and the boys are adorable. Also, "St Petersburg" for that minute moment when Douglas offers to land the plane and quietly says "OK" when Martin claims control.

Re: Your Favorite Series

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Two or three I think, can't stand the current series